Tiffany & Co. for Joslin & Park (1866-1900) 38mm 16J push-tab set pocket watch #11646, beautiful nickel bridge plate movement with screw-down jewel settings, recessed bridge accents near the edge, a factory post conversion over the winding gear and a wide bar-style damascene pattern, movement is marked "Joslin & Park".
This watch movement may be an experimental watch from the factory due to an unusual setting system, the watch is pendant wind however it has what looks like a transitionary time setting system that spans between pin and lever set eras. To set the time, you depress a small flat tab at 4 o'clock in towards the watch until you hear a click to indicate it has engaged; turning the crown will then turn the hands. To disengage the time-set function, you then depress the crown as you would when you would open the case, which will then return the tab to the winding position. We have provided a photo of the exposed system from under the dial, it does not appear this was a watchmaker conversion but instead a factory design with smoothly milled and engineered pieces with an as-expected brushed or blued finish on each, in addition there is a matching serial number stamped under the dial along with an "83".
We have a high level of confidence this was manufactured by the short-lived Tiffany & Co. factory (1874-78) as in our research we did locate other matching movement configurations that were marked Tiffany & Co. but were noted as being some of the early Patek Philippe conversions (with a Patek regulator) once Patek took over the Tiffany factory and unsold stock, however we do acknowledge that Tiffany used a number of
Ébauche movements and that this could be a high quality Swiss movement from that era. We maintain though that the
Joslin &
Park jewelers were well known in the west for high quality customized watches and watch parts and that they would have been in the right jeweler's circle to access a factory experimental watch.
Mint double sunk (DS) porcelain enamel dial with fancy Arabic-style numbers, red 5 minute markers and a black marked subsidiary seconds register is marked "Joslin & Park", purple steel moon-style hands, heavy 18k (marked, tested) fully engraved hunting case (HC) with a detailed design on both covers of a ring of flowers and laurel leaves bordered by a coin edge accent and then another ring of diamond shapes, blank monogram shield on one side and a scene of sailboats on a large lake or ocean on the reverse, coin edge bezels, an elaborate interwoven line and sunburst engraving on the frame, recessed hinges and a heavy bow, both inner covers are stamped "Joslin & Park" along with the karat markings and all 3 covers are stamped with the serial number matching the movement, #11646, case is showing normal light wear overall with very little smoothing to the engraving however there are some light scuffs across the flat of both covers, measures approx. 41mm diameter x 59mm in length x 12mm thick, weighs approx. 43.2dwt (watch movement included).
This watch also comes with a modern black leatherette box with a snap clasp and a black velveteen interior with a fitted foam insert. A very high quality triple signed solid gold watch from the later 1800s, a beauty for any heirloom collection and an especially nice find for a collector of high grade non-stock watches in excellent+ overall condition!
Please note: for this particular item, due to U.S. export limitations, we can only ship to domestic U.S. addresses.
- Year Made: late 1800s
- Company:
Tiffany & Co. for Joslin & Park
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Movement Size:
3838mm
- Jewels: 1216J
- Serial #: 11646
- Movement Finish: nickel
- Movement Details: hunting case movement (HCM), bridge layout, screw-down jewel settings, marked "Joslin & Park"
- Dial Material: porcelain enamel
- Dial Details:
jeweler's mark, "Joslin & Park"
- Hand Style:
moon - standard
- Case Style:
HC
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Case Material:
Solid Gold - Yellow
- Case Details:
factory case, marked "Joslin & Park"
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Case Width/Diameter:
41mm (1.61 inches)
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Case Length, bow included:
59mm (2.32 inches)
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Case Thickness:
12mm (0.47 inches)
- Crystal Material: plastic
- Box Info: black leatherette with fitted foam insert
- Misc. Info: experimental factory setting system, Tiffany Watches, Jervis Joslin, Boyd Park Biography, Ébauche
- Condition:
Excellent +
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Gender:
Unisex
- Weight (dwt): 43.2dwt
- Testing Results:
both case panels and bow tested to 18k
This watch is in good running condition, unless otherwise noted in the description. This means that on receipt, pending any item-specific running conditions noted in the description, you can expect the watch to be winding and setting properly and to run smoothly while keeping reasonable time. We consider "reasonable time" to meet these basic guidelines:
- Railroad Grade Watches will be keeping +/- 5 minutes per day
- Pocket and Wrist Watches with 15 or more jewels will be keeping +/- 10 minutes per day
- All key wind watches and watches with 14 or fewer jewels will be keeping +/- 15 minutes per day
The above guideline is the lowest standard in which we would ship out a watch, however in most cases, you will see much better timekeeping. Most of our watches have been in storage for many years, so if you plan on carrying/wearing them everyday, you should consider having them cleaned and oiled soon, and then once a year thereafter to keep them in top running condition. If the watches will be for occasional use or display, they should be cleaned and serviced every 3 to 5 years depending on use.
As of December 3rd, 2024, we are not offering a cleaning and service option through PM Time Service. While we do hope to offer this again in the future, we are unfortunately unable to meet customer requests for watch servicing at this time. Please note that, unless otherwise mentioned within the "Full Description" tab, this watch is being sold in good running condition and is ready to wear or carry on arrival.
This watch comes complete with an appropriate, intact plastic crystal; however, on request PM Time Service can replace the current crystal on this pocket watch for you. We offer a number of new and vintage crystal choices for pocket watches; you can select your desired choice from the dropdown menu below.
Please note that the average turnaround time for all pocket watch crystal replacements will be two days from the placement of the order.
Contact us with any further questions or for an estimate on any shipping delays.
Please note: if you add this watch with a crystal and/or band exchange option to your
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This watch features a jeweler's mark, or name of the retailer that originally sold the watch, in addition to the name of the watch manufacturer. Jeweler's marks may be engraved or printed on the dial, case or movement, depending on the watch. See the Full Description for details specific to this piece.
The jewelers' mark was a pretty common practice during the early to mid-1900s, and does continue today. A jewelry shop would commission a small run of watches directly from a watch manufacturer, such as Hamilton, Illinois, etc., who would then add markings for that jeweler at the factory to the dial, movement and/or case. This would allow for the jeweler to offer a customized branding of a high quality watch without the prohibitive cost of directly manufacturing the watch components and assembly.
The most common example that most will recognize is with Tiffany & Co., which for a short time did manufacture their own watches but realized it was cost prohibitive for their label and transitioned to commissioning watches from high-end watch manufacturers instead. On many of their vintage watches, you'll see the "Tiffany & Co" markings on the dial, and occasionally also stamped on the movement and case, but additional markings on the movement will show Longines, International Watch Co., etc. to also indicate the manufacturing company.
Unlike modern quartz watches, most vintage watches need daily winding in order to keep the watch functioning for timekeeping. Additionally, there are a number of different ways to set the time other than simply pulling the crown away from the watch body. We are happy to provide an overview of each of the different setting types on our
"How To Use" page, where we also provide information on proper winding techniques for each style and some suggestions for the proper long term care and storage of your watch.
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