Description:

Elgin 16S 7J grade 291 pocket watch #11520140, attractive nickel split plate movement with an elaborate concentric circle damascene pattern, single sunk (SS) porcelain enamel dial with bold fancy Arabic numbers, black minute markers and a black-marked subsidiary seconds register has a rectangular Hudson emblem above the center post, dial has a few small faint hairlines, blue steel spade style hands, re-cased into a heavy smooth polish yellow gold filled (YGF) screw back & bezel (SB&B) case with a slightly recessed crown and heavy bow, case is showing normal even wear with a few spots of heavy wear on the back, a few small lines of brass on the frame and some fading on the yellow base metal (YBM) bow which is a replacement to the case, measures approx. 48mm in diameter x 63mm in length x 14mm thick (crystal included). An attractive vintage watch for the Hudson Motor Car collector from the early 1900s in very good overall condition, perfect to carry everyday!


Item Specifics:

  • Year Made: 1905-1906
  • Company: Elgin
  • Movement Size: 0516S
  • Jewels: 217J
  • Setting/Movement Type: pendant set
  • Model/Grade: 291
  • Serial #: 11520140
  • Movement Finish: nickel
  • Dial Material: porcelain enamel
  • Dial Details: Hudson advertising
  • Hand Style: spade
  • Case Style: SB&B
  • Case Material: Gold Filled - Yellow, Base Metal - Yellow
  • Case Details: re-cased, recessed crown
  • Case Width/Diameter: 48mm (1.89 inches)
  • Case Length, bow included:  63mm (2.48 inches)
  • Case Thickness:  14mm (0.55 inches)
  • Crystal Material: plastic
  • Misc. Info: Hudson Motor Car Company
  • Condition: Very Good
  • Gender: Gentlemen's

Logo Info:

On all but a few of the advertising logos, mainly Packard from the Hamilton company and Studebaker from South Bend, the logos would have been commissioned through a professional dial company after they left the factory to have the logo applied. For instance, a car dealership might have them added as a promotion, a motorcycle club would have ones done for each of their members, etc.


On the watch/logo combinations that may not match up on a timeline (the watch was made prior to the automobile company being formed, for instance), what we understand could have happened is, say for a car club, the members would need to provide their own watch to which the emblems would be added. Someone might have wanted a Harley logo on "Grandpa Bob's" old pocket watch, and would have had the dial pulled from that. Other than the Packard/Hamilton & Studebaker/South Bend arrangements, it was a free-for-all on the pairings and you could find just about any combination of manufacturer with the different logos.


We do also have a pretty good selection of the vintage dials that have emblems on them, but that are not attached to a watch yet. Often in the past, a customer would want a watch without the advertising, so we would just pull the printed dial and replace it with a similar-style plain dial, then set the printed one aside. If you have something specific you are looking for, please drop us a note to see if we have anything in our stock that might work for you.