Description:

Elgin 16S 7J grade 291 pocket watch #18690531, handsome nickel split plate movement with an elaborate concentric circle damascene pattern, double sunk (DS) porcelain enamel dial with fancy Arabic numbers, red Arabic 5 minute markers, a black-marked subsidiary seconds register and a gold, red & black Pontiac emblem over the center post, dial has a few faint hairlines, blue steel spade & whip style hands, classic Elgin white base metal (WBM) screw back & bezel (SB&B) smooth polish case with a thick glass crystal and a heavy bow, case is showing normal moderate wear with some spots of discoloration on the back, frame & bow along with a few light scratches on the glass crystal, we can exchange that with a new plastic crystal at no charge on request, measures approx. 50mm in diameter x 69mm in length x 12mm thick (crystal included). An attractive triple signed Elgin from the early 1900s, a great find for the Pontiac enthusiast, in excellent overall condition!


Item Specifics:

  • Year Made: 1916-1917
  • Company: Elgin
  • Movement Size: 0516S
  • Jewels: 217J
  • Setting/Movement Type: pendant set
  • Model/Grade: 291
  • Serial #: 18690531
  • Movement Finish: nickel
  • Dial Material: porcelain enamel
  • Dial Details: double sunk (DS), Pontiac advertising
  • Hand Style: spade & whip
  • Case Style: SB&B
  • Case Material: Base Metal - Silver/White
  • Case Details: factory case, thick glass crystal
  • Case Width/Diameter: 50mm (1.97 inches)
  • Case Length, bow included:  69mm (2.72 inches)
  • Case Thickness:  12mm (0.47 inches)
  • Crystal Material: glass
  • Condition: Excellent
  • Gender: Gentlemen's

Logo Info:

On all but a few of the advertising logos, mainly Packard from the Hamilton company and Studebaker from South Bend, the logos would have been commissioned through a professional dial company after they left the factory to have the logo applied. For instance, a car dealership might have them added as a promotion, a motorcycle club would have ones done for each of their members, etc.


On the watch/logo combinations that may not match up on a timeline (the watch was made prior to the automobile company being formed, for instance), what we understand could have happened is, say for a car club, the members would need to provide their own watch to which the emblems would be added. Someone might have wanted a Harley logo on "Grandpa Bob's" old pocket watch, and would have had the dial pulled from that. Other than the Packard/Hamilton & Studebaker/South Bend arrangements, it was a free-for-all on the pairings and you could find just about any combination of manufacturer with the different logos.


We do also have a pretty good selection of the vintage dials that have emblems on them, but that are not attached to a watch yet. Often in the past, a customer would want a watch without the advertising, so we would just pull the printed dial and replace it with a similar-style plain dial, then set the printed one aside. If you have something specific you are looking for, please drop us a note to see if we have anything in our stock that might work for you.