Ball 17J ladies wrist watch, WBM & SS square case, WBM expansion band

Ball 17J ladies wrist watch, WBM & SS square case, WBM expansion band

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Ball 17J ladies wrist watch, vintage mechanical manual-wind movement, beautiful silver dial with raised silver numbers and markers has a few small scratches near the center post (not distracting), sleek silver steel hands, lovely white base metal (WBM) & stainless steel (SS) square case with flared sides, fancy top bezel, glass crystal and elaborate chevron-style lugs showing only light wear, measures approx. 17mm wide x 28mm lug to lug, handsome WBM expansion band with long thin links showing even moderate wear. A lovely vintage ladies wrist watch in excellent condition!
  • Age Description: 02Vintage (1940-1980)
  • Company: Ball
  • Jewels: 1117J
  • Setting/Movement Type: manual-wind
  • Dial Material: metal
  • Dial Color: silver
  • Case Style: square
  • Case Material: Base Metal - Silver/White, Stainless Steel
  • Case Width, without crown: 17mm (0.67 inches)
  • Case Length, lug to lug: 28mm (1.10 inches)
  • Band Size: 5in. to 6in.
    (measurement range includes watch length & band)
  • Band Material: metal expansion
  • Crystal Material: glass
  • Condition: Excellent
  • Gender: Ladies'
The Ball Watch Company, out of Cleveland, Ohio, was founded in 1879, but it was after a tragic train collision in 1891 (due to what is believed to have been a problem with one engineer's watch not keeping accurate time) that the company began the task of standardizing what we now term Railroad Grade Watches.  This detailed article about the collision discusses the event, and the lasting repercussions to our modern transit and timekeeping systems.

In 1893, Ball sold their first watches; however, it is an interesting note to this company that they never manufactured a watch, but rather had specific timing and design guidelines for watches that were then produced by the following other companies: Aurora, Elgin, Hamilton, Hampden, N.Y. Watch, E. Howard, Illinois, Seth Thomas,Vacheron & Constantin and Waltham.  While many of these companies produced high grade and railroad grade quality watches for their own sales, the watches produced for the Ball company were standardized for both mechanical and cosmetic features, and were not representative of each of the individual company aesthetics.

The Ball company continued to sell Ball Model watches until 1969, and was also a driving factor in helping to standardize timing specifications across North America as technologies improved.

For additional reference, we've posted a Serial Number Production List which includes information for Ball serial numbers and dates of manufacture.
The NAWCC also has a comprehensive article about the company.
You may browse all of our men's pocket watches from this manufacturer at our Vintage Men's Ball Pocket Watches category.
This watch is in good running condition, unless otherwise noted in the description.  This means that on receipt, pending any item-specific running conditions noted in the description, you can expect the watch to be winding and setting properly and to run smoothly while keeping reasonable time.  We consider "reasonable time" to meet these basic guidelines:
  • Railroad Grade Watches will be keeping +/- 5 minutes per day
  • Pocket and Wrist Watches with 15 or more jewels will be keeping +/- 10 minutes per day
  • All key wind watches and watches with 14 or fewer jewels will be keeping +/- 15 minutes per day
The above guideline is the lowest standard in which we would ship out a watch, however in most cases, you will see much better timekeeping.  Most of our watches have been in storage for many years, so if you plan on carrying/wearing them everyday, you should consider having them cleaned and oiled soon, and then once a year thereafter to keep them in top running condition.  If the watches will be for occasional use or display, they should be cleaned and serviced every 3 to 5 years depending on use.

We do have a professional watchmaker that does all of our cleaning and repair work for us.  To have your watch serviced before shipping, simply add this Cleaning/Service Agreement to your shopping basket.  The cleaning and timing service is $95, and depending on the time of the year, has a turnaround time of 1 to 3 weeks.

Please note that we provide this service in addition to the listed purchase price of our watches.  If you do purchase this option and later decide to return the watch, this fee is non-refundable.
This watch comes complete with an appropriate, intact glass crystal; however, on request PM Time Service can replace the current crystal on this wrist watch for you.  We offer new plastic crystals for most vintage wrist watches; you can select your desired choice from the dropdown menu below.

Please note that the average turnaround time for wrist watch crystal replacements will be two days from the placement of the order; however, we do not carry every model of crystal in stock and there may be a delay of up to seven business days as we order the correct item from our supplier.

Contact us for any further questions or for an estimate on any shipping delays.

Please note: if you add this watch with a crystal exchange option to your shopping cart but later change your mind on the crystal selection type, you'll need to remove the watch from the cart in order to make a new crystal selection.  Once that is done, you can return to this page and add that new combination to the cart.  We apologize for the limitations to our system that prevent you making that change from the shopping cart directly.

Unlike modern quartz watches, most vintage watches need daily winding in order to keep the watch functioning for timekeeping.  Additionally, there are a number of different ways to set the time other than simply pulling the crown away from the watch body.  We are happy to provide an overview of each of the different setting types on our "How To Use" page, where we also provide information on proper winding techniques for each style and some suggestions for the proper long term care and storage of your watch.

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We process a very large number of watches and accessories each year for sale via our web site, eBay and local avenues.  We attempt to offer descriptions and photos that are as complete and clear as possible on each item, and we always encourage you to write us with questions if something is not addressed in the description!

In each description, we attempt to note the following things:
<maker><size><jewels><setting><adjustments><grade/model><serial number>, <movement information>, <dial information>, <hand information>, <case information>, <misc. information>, <overall condition and comments>

Taking an example of a watch already described, we've bracketed the different sections and ordered them as above:
<Ball-Hamilton> <16S> <21J> <LS> <adj.> <Official RR Standard> <#B651197>, <nickel movement with gold jewel settings and concentric circle damascene pattern, should be noted that the gears on the movement may not be all original however watch is running strong and not affecting running condition>, <porcelain Ball marked dial with Arabic numbers has very faint hairline (not distracting)>, <blue steel hands>, <beautiful YGF SB&B Ball marked case with engraved bezels and blank monogram shield showing normal even wear (no brass)>, <fancy bow>.  <High grade Ball watch in very good condition, perfect to carry everyday!>

We also provide a List of Abbreviations that we use in our descriptions, as well as a Pocket Watch Sizing Chart that explains numerically and graphically the various sizes of pocket watches that we offer.
We offer a 30-day return period beginning the day you receive your items for all PM Time Service merchandise.  To receive a full refund, the item must be return in "as shipped" condition, with no new personalized engravings or end-user adaptions.  Items damaged in transit will be eligible for the full refund pending the application of the insurance claim on the damaged watch or item.  Please see our Shipping & Return Policy page for full details.
Holiday & Vacation Dates - Unless otherwise noted on our holiday page, you can expect an order placed to be processed and shipped out within 2-3 business days, often much sooner.  If you need an item quickly, please do double check our holiday page to make sure we will be in the office!

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In order to provide a fair and secure shipping experience for our customers, we require full insurance for the total value of your order with all items purchased.  You can view the amounts required to cover full insurance on your order on our Shipping Overview page, and it will also update automatically on the shipping estimator.  At this time, we do not allow for a customer to opt-out of insurance on their shipments.

We are happy to accept PayPal, as well as checks and money orders, for payment on all orders.

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