Elgin 12S 17J adj. grade 384 pocket watch #25166920, handsome nickel split plate movement with screw-down jewel settings and a wide-bar style damascene pattern, mint champagne-toned metal double sunk (DS) dial has a 2-tone effect based off the alternating brushed finishes on the inner and outer sections, inner section has been engraved with a ribbon and wreath design, bold black Arabic style numbers, black marked subsidiary seconds register, fancy blue steel triangle-style hands, classic yellow gold filled (YGF) Elgin smooth polish hinge back (HB) case with fancy engraving on the interior covers and a glass crystal, case is showing normal light wear overall with a few small scratches near the back case lip and on the crystal and a little brass is starting to show on the crown, measures approx. 45mm in diameter x 57mm in length x 10mm thick (crystal included). A very elegant and well maintained triple signed watch from the 1920s in excellent+ overall condition!
- Year Made: 1923-1924
- Company: Elgin
- Jewels: 17J
- Setting/Movement Type:
- Adjustments: 1-3 positions
- Model/Grade: 384
- Serial #: 25166920
- Movement Finish: nickel
- Movement Details: screw-down jewel settings
- Dial Material: metal
- Dial Color: champagne
- Dial Details: double sunk (DS)
- Hand Style:
- Case Style:
Gold Filled - Yellow
- Case Details: Elgin
Case Length, bow included:
- Crystal Material: glass
The Elgin watch company, out of Elgin, Illinois, was in business from 1864-1964, and while active, was the largest-producing American watch company, manufacturing an estimated half of all pocket watches ("dollar" watches not included). By 1956 they had produced over 55 million pocket and wrist watches.
As an additional resource, we've posted a Serial Number Production List
which includes information for Elgin serial numbers and dates of manufacture.
The NAWCC also has a about the company.
You may browse all of our men's pocket watches from this manufacturer at our Vintage Men's Elgin Pocket Watches
This watch is in good running condition, unless otherwise noted in the description. This means that on receipt, pending any item-specific running conditions noted in the description, you can expect the watch to be winding and setting properly and to run smoothly while keeping reasonable time. We consider "reasonable time" to meet these basic guidelines:
- Railroad Grade Watches will be keeping +/- 5 minutes per day
- Pocket and Wrist Watches with 15 or more jewels will be keeping +/- 10 minutes per day
- All key wind watches and watches with 14 or fewer jewels will be keeping +/- 15 minutes per day
The above guideline is the lowest standard in which we would ship out a watch, however in most cases, you will see much better timekeeping. Most of our watches have been in storage for many years, so if you plan on carrying/wearing them everyday, you should consider having them cleaned and oiled soon, and then once a year thereafter to keep them in top running condition. If the watches will be for occasional use or display, they should be cleaned and serviced every 3 to 5 years depending on use.
As of January 28th, 2023, we are not offering a cleaning and service option through PM Time Service. While we do hope to offer this again in the future, we are unfortunately unable to meet customer requests for watch servicing at this time. Please note that, unless otherwise mentioned within the "Full Description" tab, this watch is being sold in good running condition and is ready to wear or carry on arrival.
This watch comes complete with an appropriate, intact glass crystal; however, on request PM Time Service can replace the current crystal on this pocket watch for you. We offer a number of new and vintage crystal choices for pocket watches; you can select your desired choice from the dropdown menu below.
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Unlike modern quartz watches, most vintage watches need daily winding in order to keep the watch functioning for timekeeping. Additionally, there are a number of different ways to set the time other than simply pulling the crown away from the watch body. We are happy to provide an overview of each of the different setting types on our "How To Use" page
, where we also provide information on proper winding techniques for each style and some suggestions for the proper long term care and storage of your watch.
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