South Bend 16S 17J lever set (LS) adj grade 212 pocket watch #704954, attractive split plate nickel movement with screw-down jewel settings, gold center wheel and a sunburst damascene pattern, mint fancy royal blue enamel dial with fancy gold Arabic-style numbers, a subsidiary seconds register and gold Studebaker advertising logo on the upper half, fancy gold steel filigree Louis XIV-style hands, impressive yellow gold filled (YGF) hunting case (HC) with full crisp engine turning on both covers, one side has a large fancy blank monogram shield surrounded by filigree designs, other side has a small center button detail, heavy French-style bow, case is showing hardly any wear with no notable smoothing to the engraving, the only defects of note are some heavier than normal scratches on the inner frame from the opening of the dust cover and a small spot of discoloration near the monogram shield, measures approx. 50mm in diameter x 69mm in length x 13mm thick. An impressive, high grade South Bend from the early 1900s in excellent+ condition!
- Year Made: 1911-1912
- Company: South Bend
- Jewels: 17J
- Setting/Movement Type:
- Adjustments: 1-3 positions
- Model/Grade: 212
- Serial #: 704954
- Movement Finish: nickel
- Movement Details: gold center wheel
- Dial Material: fancy enamel
- Dial Color: gold, blue
- Dial Details: Studebaker logo
- Hand Style:
- Case Style:
Gold Filled - Yellow
- Case Details: French bow
50mm (1.97 inches)
Case Length, bow included:
- Crystal Material: plastic
The South Bend Watch Company was in business from 1902 until 1929. Originally the Studebaker
family in 1902 and was moved to South Bend, Indiana. The watches produced under the South Bend name started their serial numbers after the end of the Columbus numbers, 380,500, and the company produced approximately 900,000 watches before it succumbed to the downturn of the Depression and closed in 1929.
As an additional resource, we've posted a Serial Number Production List
which includes information for South Bend serial numbers and dates of manufacture.
The NAWCC also has a about the company.
out of Columbus, Ohio, the company was purchased by members of the
This watch is in good running condition, unless otherwise noted in the description. This means that on receipt, pending any item-specific running conditions noted in the description, you can expect the watch to be winding and setting properly and to run smoothly while keeping reasonable time. We consider "reasonable time" to meet these basic guidelines:
- Railroad Grade Watches will be keeping +/- 5 minutes per day
- Pocket and Wrist Watches with 15 or more jewels will be keeping +/- 10 minutes per day
- All key wind watches and watches with 14 or fewer jewels will be keeping +/- 15 minutes per day
The above guideline is the lowest standard in which we would ship out a watch, however in most cases, you will see much better timekeeping. Most of our watches have been in storage for many years, so if you plan on carrying/wearing them everyday, you should consider having them cleaned and oiled soon, and then once a year thereafter to keep them in top running condition. If the watches will be for occasional use or display, they should be cleaned and serviced every 3 to 5 years depending on use.
As of October 22nd, 2021, we are not offering a cleaning and service option through PM Time Service. While we do hope to offer this again in the future, we are unfortunately unable to meet customer requests for watch servicing at this time. Please note that, unless otherwise mentioned within the "Full Description" tab, this watch is being sold in good running condition and is ready to wear or carry on arrival.
This watch comes complete with an appropriate, intact plastic crystal; however, on request PM Time Service can replace the current crystal on this
pocket watch for you. We offer a number of new and vintage crystal choices for pocket
watches; as this watch is currently offered at our
, please message us on Etsy when purchasing this item to request a new crystal.
Please note that the average turnaround time for all pocket watch crystal replacements will be two days from the placement of the order; wrist watches will typically also take two days, however we do not carry every model of crystal in stock and there may be a delay of up to seven business days as we order the correct item from our supplier.
with any further questions or for an estimate on any shipping delays.
On all but a few of the advertising logos, mainly Packard from the Hamilton company and Studebaker from South Bend, the logos would have been commissioned through a professional dial company after they left the factory to have the logo applied. For instance, a car dealership might have them added as a promotion, a motorcycle club would have ones done for each of their members, etc.
On the watch/logo combinations that may not match up on a timeline (the watch was made prior to the automobile company being formed, for instance), what we understand could have happened is, say for a car club, the members would need to provide their own watch to which the emblems would be added. Someone might have wanted a Harley logo on "Grandpa Bob's" old pocket watch, and would have had the dial pulled from that. Other than the Packard/Hamilton & Studebaker/South Bend arrangements, it was a free-for-all on the pairings and you could find just about any combination of manufacturer with the different logos.
We do also have a pretty good selection of the vintage dials that have emblems on them, but that are not attached to a watch yet. Often in the past, a customer would want a watch without the advertising, so we would just pull the printed dial and replace it with a similar-style plain dial, then set the printed one aside. If you have something specific you are looking for, please drop us a note
to see if we have anything in our stock that might work for you.
And, if you are interested in this watch without the current advertising dial, please drop us a note
as well. On wrist watches, we can give you a quote on what the current charge to re-finish the dial would be (typically it will run $35 to $75 depending on the dial style). On American-make pocket watches, we may have a replacement dial in stock and could exchange the current dial with an unmarked dial for a small fee. Most European-make watches would need to have the dial refinished to remove the emblem.
Unlike modern quartz watches, most vintage watches need daily winding in order to keep the watch functioning for timekeeping. Additionally, there are a number of different ways to set the time other than simply pulling the crown away from the watch body. We are happy to provide an overview of each of the different setting types on our "How To Use" page
, where we also provide information on proper winding techniques for each style and some suggestions for the proper long term care and storage of your watch.
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