Elgin 16S 21J lever set (LS) adj 5p Father Time Up & Down indicator grade 374 pocket watch #18106303, beautiful nickel split plate movement with screw-down raised gold jewel settings, gold train and center wheel and a sunburst style damascene pattern, gold-toned metal conversion dial, which allows a normally open-face watch to be used as a hunting-cased watch, with fancy black Arabic-style numbers, a brushed finish and subsidiary seconds and power registers has a few small depressions but no notable damage or patina, bold purple steel spade & whip style hands, re-cased into an attractive yellow gold filled (YGF) Fahys Montauk-style hunting case (HC) with an unusual hinged front cover and screw-down back cover, case has been engraved with crisp engine turning behind the large, elaborate floral and filigree engraved designs, a large blooming flower in the center on 1 side and a fancy blank monogram shield on the reverse, case is showing only very light even wear, measures approx. 50mm in diameter x 70mm in length x 14mm thick. This is a railroad grade movement that has been adapted to be carried in a hunting case and could be restored to the open-faced requirement to meet the full railroad standards by a dedicated collector if desired as all modifications are cosmetic. A distinctive, high grade Elgin from the early 1900s in excellent+ condition!
21J Setting/Movement Type:
5 positions Model/Grade:
Father Time Up & Down indicator grade 374 Serial #:
18106303 Movement Finish:
nickel Movement Details:
gold jewel settings (GJS), gold train & center wheel Dial Material:
metal Dial Color:
gold Dial Details:
conversion dial Hand Style:
Gold Filled - Yellow
Fahys, hinged front/screw-down back, re-cased
50mm (1.97 inches)
Case Length, bow included:
The Elgin watch company, out of Elgin, Illinois, was in business from 1864-1964, and while active, was the largest-producing American watch company, manufacturing an estimated half of all pocket watches ("dollar" watches not included). By 1956 they had produced over 55 million pocket and wrist watches.
As an additional resource, we've posted a
Serial Number Production List
which includes information for Elgin serial numbers and dates of manufacture.
The NAWCC also has a about the company.
You may browse all of our men's pocket watches from this manufacturer at our
Vintage Men's Elgin Pocket Watches
This watch is in good running condition, unless otherwise noted in the description. This means that on receipt, pending any item-specific running conditions noted in the description, you can expect the watch to be winding and setting properly and to run smoothly while keeping reasonable time. We consider "reasonable time" to meet these basic guidelines:
Railroad Grade Watches will be keeping +/- 5 minutes per day
Pocket and Wrist Watches with 15 or more jewels will be keeping +/- 10 minutes per day
All key wind watches and watches with 14 or fewer jewels will be keeping +/- 15 minutes per day
The above guideline is the lowest standard in which we would ship out a watch, however in most cases, you will see much better timekeeping. Most of our watches have been in storage for many years, so if you plan on carrying/wearing them everyday, you should consider having them cleaned and oiled soon, and then once a year thereafter to keep them in top running condition. If the watches will be for occasional use or display, they should be cleaned and serviced every 3 to 5 years depending on use.
As of October 22nd, 2021, we are not offering a cleaning and service option through PM Time Service. While we do hope to offer this again in the future, we are unfortunately unable to meet customer requests for watch servicing at this time. Please note that, unless otherwise mentioned within the "Full Description" tab, this watch is being sold in good running condition and is ready to wear or carry on arrival.
This watch comes complete with an appropriate, intact plastic crystal; however, on request PM Time Service can replace the current crystal on this pocket watch for you. We offer a number of new and vintage crystal choices for pocket watches; you can select your desired choice from the dropdown menu below.
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Unlike modern quartz watches, most vintage watches need daily winding in order to keep the watch functioning for timekeeping. Additionally, there are a number of different ways to set the time other than simply pulling the crown away from the watch body. We are happy to provide an overview of each of the different setting types on our
"How To Use" page
, where we also provide information on proper winding techniques for each style and some suggestions for the proper long term care and storage of your watch.
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