Elgin 16S 22J adj 5p B.W. Raymond grade 581 pocket watch #41752455, impressive gold flashed split plate nickel movement with steel winding wheels, bar-style damascene pattern and additional conversion bridge for the sweep second hand which adds the extra jewel to the 21J standard movement, mint porcelain enamel dial with Arabic style numbers and black 5 minute markers, heavy blue steel spade & whip style hands and a blue sweep second, heavy white base metal (WBM) Elgin screw back & bezel (SB&B) case with coin edge bezels, heavy pendant, fancy heavy bow and a circular Butler finish on the back under the military markings, marked "H.S. ↑3" and "52464", acrylic crystal in excellent condition, likely the original, case is showing only light wear, measures approx. 51mm in diameter x 64mm long x 15mm thick (crystal included).
This watch also comes with a solid wood box with a glass insert on the top lid to display the watch while inside, interior has fitted brown leather finishing to keep the watch secure. While the watch does fit perfectly in the box setting and is a handsomely matched set, we believe it may not be an original pairing. A high grade triple signed World War II-era (WWII) watch in excellent+ condition!
- Year Made: 1943-1944
- Company: Elgin
- Jewels: 22J
- Setting/Movement Type:
- Adjustments: 5 positions
- Model/Grade: B.W. Raymond grade 581
- Serial #: 41752455
- Movement Finish: gold-flashed
- Movement Details: sweep second conversion bridge
- Dial Material: porcelain enamel
- Hand Style:
- Case Style:
Base Metal - Silver/White
- Case Details: military markings
51mm (2.01 inches)
Case Length, bow included:
- Crystal Material: acrylic
- Box Info: wood box with glass display
The Elgin watch company, out of Elgin, Illinois, was in business from 1864-1964, and while active, was the largest-producing American watch company, manufacturing an estimated half of all pocket watches ("dollar" watches not included). By 1956 they had produced over 55 million pocket and wrist watches.
As an additional resource, we've posted a Serial Number Production List
which includes information for Elgin serial numbers and dates of manufacture.
The NAWCC also has a about the company.
You may browse all of our men's pocket watches from this manufacturer at our Vintage Men's Elgin Pocket Watches
This watch is in good running condition, unless otherwise noted in the description. This means that on receipt, pending any item-specific running conditions noted in the description, you can expect the watch to be winding and setting properly and to run smoothly while keeping reasonable time. We consider "reasonable time" to meet these basic guidelines:
- Railroad Grade Watches will be keeping +/- 5 minutes per day
- Pocket and Wrist Watches with 15 or more jewels will be keeping +/- 10 minutes per day
- All key wind watches and watches with 14 or fewer jewels will be keeping +/- 15 minutes per day
The above guideline is the lowest standard in which we would ship out a watch, however in most cases, you will see much better timekeeping. Most of our watches have been in storage for many years, so if you plan on carrying/wearing them everyday, you should consider having them cleaned and oiled soon, and then once a year thereafter to keep them in top running condition. If the watches will be for occasional use or display, they should be cleaned and serviced every 3 to 5 years depending on use.
We do have a professional watchmaker that does all of our cleaning and repair work for us. To have your watch serviced before shipping, simply add this Cleaning/Service Agreement
to your shopping basket. The cleaning and timing service is $95, and depending on the time of the year, has a turnaround time of 1 to 3 weeks.
Please note that we provide this service in addition to the listed purchase price of our watches. If you do purchase this option and later decide to return the watch, this fee is non-refundable.
This watch comes complete with an appropriate, intact acrylic crystal; however, on request PM Time Service can replace the current crystal on this
pocket watch for you. We offer a number of new and vintage crystal choices for pocket
watches; as this watch is currently offered at our
, please message us on Etsy when purchasing this item to request a new crystal.
Please note that the average turnaround time for all pocket watch crystal replacements will be two days from the placement of the order; wrist watches will typically also take two days, however we do not carry every model of crystal in stock and there may be a delay of up to seven business days as we order the correct item from our supplier.
with any further questions or for an estimate on any shipping delays.
Unlike modern quartz watches, most vintage watches need daily winding in order to keep the watch functioning for timekeeping. Additionally, there are a number of different ways to set the time other than simply pulling the crown away from the watch body. We are happy to provide an overview of each of the different setting types on our "How To Use" page
, where we also provide information on proper winding techniques for each style and some suggestions for the proper long term care and storage of your watch.