Illinois 18S 7J HCM #844381 transitional model pocket watch, heavy WBM smooth polish SB&B case

Illinois 18S 7J HCM #844381 transitional model pocket watch, heavy WBM smooth polish SB&B case

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Illinois 18S 7J hunting case movement (HCM) #844381 transitional model pocket watch, attractive full plate gilt movement marked "I.W. Co." with an engraved balance bridge has a post over the main spring barrel, enabling this watch to be wound with a key or via the pendant, the foot plate to the winding stem is missing but does not affect the running condition, distinctive double-sunk (DS) porcelain enamel dial with a subsidiary seconds register has a name, Ed Carmichael, instead of numbers, dial has a small faint hairline at 6 o'clock, blue steel spade style hands, re-cased into a heavy white base metal (WBM) smooth polish screw back & bezel (SB&B) case with coin edge bezels and a heavy bow, case is showing normal even wear overall but has some small patches of discoloration on the front bezel, possibly from some sort adhesive that permanently set over time, measures approx. 55mm in diameter x 78mm long x 21mm thick (crystal included). An unusual, early Illinois from the 1880s in excellent condition!
  • Year Made: 1887-1888
  • Company: Illinois
  • Movement Size: 0318S
  • Jewels: 217J
  • Setting/Movement Type: lever set
  • Serial #: 844381
  • Movement Finish: gilt
  • Movement Details: transitional model, hunting case movement (HCM)
  • Dial Material: porcelain enamel
  • Dial Details: "Ed Carmichael" for numbers
  • Hand Style: spade
  • Case Style: SB&B
  • Case Material: Base Metal - Silver/White
  • Case Width/Diameter: 55mm (2.17 inches)
  • Case Length, bow included: 78mm (3.07 inches)
  • Case Thickness: 21mm (0.83 inches)
  • Crystal Material: plastic
  • Misc. Info: re-cased
  • Condition: Excellent
  • Gender: Gentlemen's
The Illinois Watch Company was founded in Springfield, Illinois and began production of its earliest branded models in 1872, although the company had been producing small runs of watches with various other markings as early as 1869. In 1927, the Hamilton Watch Company purchased Illinois and manufactured watches in the Springfield factory up until 1932. Afterwards, Hamilton continued to produce watches with Illinois Watch Company markings from their main factory in Lancaster, Pennsylvania until 1939.

As an additional resource, we've posted a Serial Number Production List which includes information for Illinois serial numbers and dates of manufacture.
The NAWCC also has a comprehensive article about the company.
You may browse all of our men's pocket watches from this manufacturer at our Vintage Men's Illinois Pocket Watches category.
This watch is in good running condition, unless otherwise noted in the description. This means that on receipt, pending any item-specific running conditions noted in the description, you can expect the watch to be winding and setting properly and to run smoothly while keeping reasonable time. We consider "reasonable time" to meet these basic guidelines:
  • Railroad Grade Watches will be keeping +/- 5 minutes per day
  • Pocket and Wrist Watches with 15 or more jewels will be keeping +/- 10 minutes per day
  • All key wind watches and watches with 14 or fewer jewels will be keeping +/- 15 minutes per day
The above guideline is the lowest standard in which we would ship out a watch, however in most cases, you will see much better timekeeping. Most of our watches have been in storage for many years, so if you plan on carrying/wearing them everyday, you should consider having them cleaned and oiled soon, and then once a year thereafter to keep them in top running condition. If the watches will be for occasional use or display, they should be cleaned and serviced every 3 to 5 years depending on use.

As of April 15th, 2021, we are not offering a cleaning and service option through PM Time Service. While we do hope to offer this again in the future, we are unfortunately unable to meet customer requests for watch servicing at this time. Please note that, unless otherwise mentioned within the "Full Description" tab, this watch is being sold in good running condition and is ready to wear or carry on arrival.
This watch comes complete with an appropriate, intact plastic crystal; however, on request PM Time Service can replace the current crystal on this pocket watch for you. We offer a number of new and vintage crystal choices for pocket watches; you can select your desired choice from the dropdown menu below.

Please note that the average turnaround time for all pocket watch crystal replacements will be two days from the placement of the order.

Contact us with any further questions or for an estimate on any shipping delays.

Please note: if you add this watch with a crystal exchange option to your shopping cart but later change your mind on the crystal selection type, you'll need to remove the watch from the cart in order to make a new crystal selection. Once that is done, you can return to this page and add that new combination to the cart. We apologize for the limitations to our system that prevent you making that change from the shopping cart directly.

Unlike modern quartz watches, most vintage watches need daily winding in order to keep the watch functioning for timekeeping. Additionally, there are a number of different ways to set the time other than simply pulling the crown away from the watch body. We are happy to provide an overview of each of the different setting types on our "How To Use" page, where we also provide information on proper winding techniques for each style and some suggestions for the proper long term care and storage of your watch.

For your gift giving convenience, please find a consolidated overview of the information on this item, with no reference to the price, on this printer-optimized page.

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We process a very large number of watches and accessories each year for sale via our web site, eBay and local avenues. We attempt to offer descriptions and photos that are as complete and clear as possible on each item, and we always encourage you to write us with questions if something is not addressed in the description!

In each description, we attempt to note the following things:
<maker><size><jewels><setting><adjustments><grade/model><serial number>, <movement information>, <dial information>, <hand information>, <case information>, <misc. information>, <overall condition and comments>

Taking an example of a watch already described, we've bracketed the different sections and ordered them as above:
<Ball-Hamilton> <16S> <21J> <LS> <adj.> <Official RR Standard> <#B651197>, <nickel movement with gold jewel settings and concentric circle damascene pattern, should be noted that the gears on the movement may not be all original however watch is running strong and not affecting running condition>, <porcelain Ball marked dial with Arabic numbers has very faint hairline (not distracting)>, <blue steel hands>, <beautiful YGF SB&B Ball marked case with engraved bezels and blank monogram shield showing normal even wear (no brass)>, <fancy bow>. <High grade Ball watch in very good condition, perfect to carry everyday!>

We also provide a List of Abbreviations that we use in our descriptions, as well as a Pocket Watch Sizing Chart that explains numerically and graphically the various sizes of pocket watches that we offer.
We offer a 30-day return period beginning the day you receive your items for all PM Time Service merchandise. To receive a full refund, the item must be return in "as shipped" condition, with no new personalized engravings or end-user adaptions. Items damaged in transit will be eligible for the full refund pending the application of the insurance claim on the damaged watch or item. Please see our Shipping & Return Policy page for full details.
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