Elgin 16S 7J grade 469 timer #41045129, simple nickel split plate movement with darkened steel winding wheels and a matte finish, porcelain enamel dial with Arabic-style numbers 5-55 in increments of 5, black seconds markers around the outer edge and a minute register at 12 o'clock with Arabic numbers 3-30 in increments to 3, dial does have some hairlines and a small flake at the edge near the 20, slender blue steel sweep register hands, heavy Elgin smooth polish nickel hinge-back (HB) case with a heavy pendant and fancy square bow, crown depresses to start, stop & reset the timer function, case is showing normal light wear overall but there are a few scratches near the case lip on the dust cover, measures approx. 49mm in diameter x 68 in length x 12mm thick (crystal included). A handsome WWII-era triple signed timer in excellent condition!
- Year Made: 1942-1943
- Jewels: 217J
- Setting/Movement Type:
- Model/Grade: 469 timer
- Serial #: 41045129
- Movement Finish: nickel
- Movement Details: timer
- Dial Material: porcelain enamel
- Dial Details: minute register
- Hand Style:
- Case Style:
- Case Details: Elgin
49mm (1.93 inches)
Case Length, bow included:
68mm (2.68 inches)
12mm (0.47 inches)
- Crystal Material: plastic
The Elgin watch company, out of Elgin, Illinois, was in business from 1864-1964, and while active, was the largest-producing American watch company, manufacturing an estimated half of all pocket watches ("dollar" watches not included). By 1956 they had produced over 55 million pocket and wrist watches.
As an additional resource, we've posted a Serial Number Production List
which includes information for Elgin serial numbers and dates of manufacture.
The NAWCC also has a comprehensive article
about the company; additional information may also be found on Wikipedia
You may browse all of our men's pocket watches from this manufacturer at our Vintage Men's Elgin Pocket Watches
This watch is in good running condition, unless otherwise noted in the description. This means that on receipt, pending any item-specific running conditions noted in the description, you can expect the watch to be winding and setting properly and to run smoothly while keeping reasonable time. We consider "reasonable time" to meet these basic guidelines:
- Railroad Grade Watches will be keeping +/- 5 minutes per day
- Pocket and Wrist Watches with 15 or more jewels will be keeping +/- 10 minutes per day
- All key wind watches and watches with 14 or fewer jewels will be keeping +/- 15 minutes per day
The above guideline is the lowest standard in which we would ship out a watch, however in most cases, you will see much better timekeeping. Most of our watches have been in storage for many years, so if you plan on carrying/wearing them everyday, you should consider having them cleaned and oiled soon, and then once a year thereafter to keep them in top running condition. If the watches will be for occasional use or display, they should be cleaned and serviced every 3 to 5 years depending on use.
As of March 30th, 2023, we are not offering a cleaning and service option through PM Time Service. While we do hope to offer this again in the future, we are unfortunately unable to meet customer requests for watch servicing at this time. Please note that, unless otherwise mentioned within the "Full Description" tab, this watch is being sold in good running condition and is ready to wear or carry on arrival.
Unlike modern quartz watches, most vintage watches need daily winding in order to keep the watch functioning for timekeeping. Additionally, there are a number of different ways to set the time other than simply pulling the crown away from the watch body. We are happy to provide an overview of each of the different setting types on our "How To Use" page
, where we also provide information on proper winding techniques for each style and some suggestions for the proper long term care and storage of your watch.
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