Washington by Illinois 16S 17J adj. HCM Senate pocket watch #2424892, YGF SB&B case with monogram

Washington by Illinois 16S 17J adj. HCM Senate pocket watch #2424892, YGF SB&B case with monogram

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Washington by Illinois 16S 17J adj. hunting case movement (HCM) Senate pocket watch #2424892, beautiful nickel split-plate movement with an unusual 2 bridge layout, screw-down jewel settings and an unusual bar & concentric circle damascene pattern, porcelain enamel dial with roman numerals, red 5 minute markers and a subsidiary seconds register is marked for the jeweler "B.T. Hoffman Chicago", dial does have some faint hairlines along with a small expert repair at the edge near the lever, blue steel moon-style hands, re-cased into a heavy yellow gold filled (YGF) smooth polish screw back & bezel (SB&B) case with a large fancy monogram, possibly "SS" and heavy pendant & bow, case is showing normal even wear with a small patch of brass on the bow and a few small shallow dents along the frame, measures approx. 56mm in diameter x 71mm in length x 15mm thick (crystal included). A high quality jeweler's watch from the early 1900s in excellent condition!
  • Year Made: 1912-1913
  • Company: Washington (by Illinois)
  • Movement Size: 0416S
  • Jewels: 1117J
  • Setting/Movement Type: lever set
  • Adjustments: 1-3 positions
  • Model/Grade: Senate
  • Serial #: 2424892
  • Movement Finish: nickel
  • Movement Details: fancy plate layout
  • Dial Material: porcelain enamel
  • Dial Details: jeweler's mark, "B.T. Hoffman Chicago"
  • Hand Style: moon - standard
  • Case Style: SB&B
  • Case Material: Gold Filled - Yellow
  • Case Details: re-cased, monogram
  • Case Width/Diameter: 56mm (2.20 inches)
  • Case Length, bow included: 71mm (2.80 inches)
  • Case Thickness: 15mm (0.59 inches)
  • Crystal Material: plastic
  • Condition: Excellent
  • Gender: Gentlemen's
This watch is in good running condition, unless otherwise noted in the description. This means that on receipt, pending any item-specific running conditions noted in the description, you can expect the watch to be winding and setting properly and to run smoothly while keeping reasonable time. We consider "reasonable time" to meet these basic guidelines:
  • Railroad Grade Watches will be keeping +/- 5 minutes per day
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The above guideline is the lowest standard in which we would ship out a watch, however in most cases, you will see much better timekeeping. Most of our watches have been in storage for many years, so if you plan on carrying/wearing them everyday, you should consider having them cleaned and oiled soon, and then once a year thereafter to keep them in top running condition. If the watches will be for occasional use or display, they should be cleaned and serviced every 3 to 5 years depending on use.

As of October 6th, 2022, we are not offering a cleaning and service option through PM Time Service. While we do hope to offer this again in the future, we are unfortunately unable to meet customer requests for watch servicing at this time. Please note that, unless otherwise mentioned within the "Full Description" tab, this watch is being sold in good running condition and is ready to wear or carry on arrival.
This watch features a jeweler's mark, or name of the retailer that originally sold the watch, in addition to the name of the watch manufacturer. Jeweler's marks may be engraved or printed on the dial, case or movement, depending on the watch. See the Full Description for details specific to this piece.

The jewelers' mark was a pretty common practice during the early to mid-1900s, and does continue today. A jewelry shop would commission a small run of watches directly from a watch manufacturer, such as Hamilton, Illinois, etc., who would then add markings for that jeweler at the factory to the dial, movement and/or case. This would allow for the jeweler to offer a customized branding of a high quality watch without the prohibitive cost of directly manufacturing the watch components and assembly.

The most common example that most will recognize is with Tiffany & Co., which for a short time did manufacture their own watches but realized it was cost prohibitive for their label and transitioned to commissioning watches from high-end watch manufacturers instead. On many of their vintage watches, you'll see the "Tiffany & Co" markings on the dial, and occasionally also stamped on the movement and case, but additional markings on the movement will show Longines, International Watch Co., etc. to also indicate the manufacturing company.
Unlike modern quartz watches, most vintage watches need daily winding in order to keep the watch functioning for timekeeping. Additionally, there are a number of different ways to set the time other than simply pulling the crown away from the watch body. We are happy to provide an overview of each of the different setting types on our "How To Use" page, where we also provide information on proper winding techniques for each style and some suggestions for the proper long term care and storage of your watch.

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In each description, we attempt to note the following things:
<maker><size><jewels><setting><adjustments><grade/model><serial number>, <movement information>, <dial information>, <hand information>, <case information>, <misc. information>, <overall condition and comments>

Taking an example of a watch already described, we've bracketed the different sections and ordered them as above:
<Ball-Hamilton> <16S> <21J> <LS> <adj.> <Official RR Standard> <#B651197>, <nickel movement with gold jewel settings and concentric circle damascene pattern, should be noted that the gears on the movement may not be all original however watch is running strong and not affecting running condition>, <porcelain Ball marked dial with Arabic numbers has very faint hairline (not distracting)>, <blue steel hands>, <beautiful YGF SB&B Ball marked case with engraved bezels and blank monogram shield showing normal even wear (no brass)>, <fancy bow>. <High grade Ball watch in very good condition, perfect to carry everyday!>

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